Mutual Rape

Feminists decry the all-pervasiveness of “rape culture” while simultaneously overtly sanctioning false rape accusations.  Although the woman in question was grinning from ear-to-ear on the video during “probably the most traumatic experience of her life”, on behalf of the victim, Ohio University senior Allie Erwin claims it was rape.  “She obviously wasn’t okay with what happened. It was rape. She reported it to the police as rape.”

There is literally no defense.  If you’ve had any sexual interaction with a woman who’s been drinking, if the next day she says it was rape, it was rape.  Period.  “Witnesses confirmed that, while both participants were clearly drunk, the ‘victim’ was not incapacitated and ‘seemed like she was enjoying it’; she also left with the man afterwards, walking unassisted.”  She was also seen smiling and placing her hand behind the man’s head as if to keep it in place.

Cathy Young: [emphasis mine]

Feminists outside the OU campus took the same stance.  A column on, the website of the Center for the American Progress, suggested that eyewitness accounts confirming that both participants in the act were “very, very drunk” proved that, no matter how consensual it looked, it fit Ohio University’s criteria for sexual assault.  (Actually, the university policy quoted in the column states that a person is unable to consent if “incapacitated” due to alcohol or other factors.)  The writer, Tara Culp-Resser, did not seem to realize that by her definition, the man can be considered a victim of sexual assault as much as the woman–leading to the absurd conclusion that they were raping each other.

Hence a glorious opportunity for men to become Black Knights.  Whenever a man is falsely accused of raping a woman when they were both drunk, instead of merely defending himself, he should also accuse her of raping him.

Obviously, this wouldn’t work under every circumstance or jurisdiction in that rape codes vary.  But sometimes it would.  Ann Althouse:

In statutory rape, depending on how the statute is written, both can be committing the crime. If you want to define “sexual assault” broadly, it can be possible for both to be committing the offense.

So instead of men just defending themselves, how about they fight back spurious accusations with even more spurious accusations.

It’s obviously stupid to believe that two people can simultaneously rape each other, but it’s also obviously stupid to conflate the truly subhuman cruelty of violent rape with something that makes a woman giggle in glee.

But we didn’t write the rules, we just have to follow them.  The rules say that having sex with a drunk person is rape, but our adherence to “out-dated gender norms” suggest to us that the victim in such case is de facto female.  Men also have sex when unable to legally consent, and that means that thousands upon thousands of men in similar situations are also victims of rape.

Stupid?  Yup.  Let’s start forcing people to acknowledge it.

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10 Responses to Mutual Rape

  1. In one of our many, many, many, many sexual assault briefs, the platoon commander told all of the men that filing a restricted report would serve as a form of insurance against false rape accusations. If she was to make an accusation later, he could pull out his own report and unrestrict it; basically a get out of false rape free card. The fact that the situation was so absurd as to merit men going around complaining about rape every time they got laid was not lost on anyone. He was trying to look out for his men, and dealing with the best of a bad situation. That it was ever needed speaks to how poorly the military is handling all this.

    The Shadowed Knight

  2. Wilson says:

    The law would have no problem with arresting both parties–more overtime. Feminists would of course easily swat down your suggestion by exploiting the traditional notion that men who have sex with women without proposing marriage are “taking advantage of them”, by muddling the legal theory with the claim that women need special consideration because of their minority disadvantaged status, and by spreading misinformation about drinks tainted with “rape drugs” and myths about gangs of men deliberating arranging an alcohol “rape culture”. See the way they are making it legal for women to engage in prostitution, while severely criminalizing it for men. Feminism makes the rules, you obey.

  3. Mina says:

    Meanwhile, back at the ranch, the Feminists vociferously deny any responsibility for ensuring their own safety by carrying a weapon of any kind thereby very effectively transerring the responsibility for the woman’s safety to the men … all men … whether they be petty criminals, murderers, violent rapists or “date rapist” types.

    By their logic -ergo- because all men are responsible for ensuring the safety of all women it makes a very easy jump for them to lump all men into the same criminal/violent/rapist category.

    Conclusion: the reason there is a “rape culture” is because women refuse to take any responsibility for their own safety and instead consider it all men’s job to take that responsibilty on for them.

    • Mina says:

      Here’s a great exange on Hannity. Liberal/Feminist “Political analyst Zerlina Maxwell on Hannity talking about gun violence and rape prevention. Giving every woman a gun is not going to solve problem of rape. Teaching men about consent and how to respect women is where any conversation about prevention should begin.” Her statement in the video is: “I think that the entire conversation is wrong. I don’t want anybody to be telling women anything. I don’t want men to be telling me what to wear and how to act, not to drink. And I don’t, honestly, want you to tell me that I needed a gun in order to prevent my rape. In my case, don’t tell me if I’d only had a gun, I wouldn’t have been raped. Don’t put it on me to prevent the rape.” All Feminists think like this because all Feminists are Liberals.

  4. earl says:

    Why not? When the laws are vague and practically illogical…give them a dose of their own medicine.

  5. sunshinemary says:

    @ Mina

    Conclusion: the reason there is a “rape culture” is because women refuse to take any responsibility for their own safety and instead consider it all men’s job to take that responsibilty on for them.


    Though in this particular case, there was no rape for her to protect herself from.

    The idea of men Black Knighting here is reasonable, but some part of me rejects that idea. I’d rather see false rape accusations go away, not increase. A drunk but upright couple having sex with each other are engaging in fornication, which is a sin, but they aren’t raping each other.

    • Martel says:

      A drunken couple copulating may be sinful, but they’re not raping each other. However, according to certain campus sex codes, they are. I see no better way to call attention to how idiotic such codes are than to bring such idiocy out into the open.

      I understand where you’re coming from regarding false rape claim frequency, yet I also want to see fewer spurious sexual harassment charges, etc., and black knighting is a great way to combat that.

      Moreover, I think some of the “girls gone wild” mentality taking over today’s youth is the unspoken knowledge that if she regrets her poor choices, she’ll be able to blame somebody else. If we’ve able to make that option less appealing in nearly any respect, it may have the consequence of more responsible female behavior.

      Though I’m not counting on it.

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