It’s your choice, obviously. Raise your son to be in touch with his feminine side. Teach him to negotiate with bullies (or better yet, to “tell on them”). Don’t let him play football because he might get hurt. Instead, have him play T-ball in a league that doesn’t keep score.
Keep him soft and quiet and zoned out so that his objectively dimwit teacher doesn’t bore him. Suspend him for trying to save the world from evil. Encourage him to play with Barbie dolls. Put him in a dress.
Make him as much like a girl as you possibly can, but then know he’ll never grow up to be able to do something like this:
What Rembrandt knows is that a biker’s power and intimidating image can even the playing field for a little kid who has been hurt. If the man who hurt this little girl calls or drives by, or even if she is just scared, another nightmare, the bikers will ride over and stand guard all night.
If she is afraid to go to school, they will take her and watch until she’s safely inside.
And if she has to go testify against her abuser in court, they will go, too, walking with her to the witness stand and taking over the first row of seats. Pipes will tell her, “Look at us, not him.” And when she’s done, they will circle her again and walk her out.
The bikers must be tough, not only to protect the kids but to be able to stomach knowing what their young charges may have been through. An 8-year-old beaten by Mom; a 6-year-old molested by his mother’s boyfriend. A girl, 10, raped.
I’m aware that sometimes men are falsely accused of child abuse, but I’m also aware that kids are often raped by their mom’s Alpha- boyfriend. (For those who want to reference my post yesterday in which I endorse corporal punishment, there’s a difference between a couple of well-deserved smacks on the ass and abuse. Most rational people recognize this.)
But it’s not more cops, sensitivity training, or feminized boys who are going to solve the problem. It’s men, strong men. The type of dude who could casually kill you but protects you instead.
We desperately need a return to Christ, but even if that happens, we’ll never get rid of evil.
But we can fight back against it if we’re strong. Powerful men, unafraid to do what’s right are our only Earthly hope.
Yes, the Manosphere is about Game. It’s about sex, keeping your wife, not taking crap, and learning to live your dreams.
It’s also about this, preserving civilization’s very core.
Even though some of these guys probably carry guns.
In court that day, the judge asked the boy, “Are you afraid?” No, the boy said.
Pipes says the judge seemed surprised and asked, “Why not?”
…”Because my friends are scarier than he is.”
We in the West have been coddled for so long we have forgotten an ugly truth: Civilization survived and thrived because its protectors were scarier than the people who wanted to bring it down. When this is no longer the case, civilization dies.
And this naivete is ironically (well, maybe not) the very force that’s most likely to make us confront the ugly side of human nature (masculine included) more intensely than we would ever have to if we were just a bit more realisitic.
“The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!”
Aye. And what a terrible confrontation it will be.
Every time I read about these men, I cry. I have a deep respect for these gentlemen.
I have so much more to say, but it’s just going to be rambling. The gist? Masculinity can be profound. Women need to stop trying to bend it to their will and instead help it grow.
More important than “help it grow”, get the hell out of the way so that it can develop on its own, either within the kid or through other men in his life.
(Which “helps” I suppose, so maybe I’m just harping on semantics.)
A mother’s ways to help it grow:
~ Feed him good food.
~ encourage him and then stand back
~ show him feminine respect in how she treats to father
~ Accept his masculinity on his and his men’s terms
~ Stand behind his mentor (his father) in support. Don’t second guess him or question him in front of the boy.
~ arguably the most important . . . get the hell out of the way (of course this is incredibly important)
There are more, but you get my point. For better or worse, a boy will be spending time alone with his mother for various reasons. She needs to know how to help support his masculinity during these times. So yes, definitely get out of the way. But be aware that helping it is important as well.
I don’t mean to pick nits, but it’s important for a mother to be somewhat involved as well. In my experience, girls are drawn to their fathers (Daddy’s little girl) for certain emotional needs and so are boys with their mothers. It adds a bit of balance for both sexes.
I should also add, the older he gets, the more she should get the heck out of the way.
Fine, you win. *Martel scowls*
At the same time, she needs to be very self-aware, to recognize that lots of things that feel wrong to her are merely things she can’t understand. *Martel regains his pride.*
*Then Martel remembers that Stingray wrote a post on this very thing and scowls again.*
Of course, everything you say Stingray is reliant on one crucial fact: the father is still in the boy’s life. The most important thing a mother can do is not kick her son’s father out of his life. Of course, if the father is a negative influence in total, then it was probably because she chose poorly and had failed her son before he was born.
I’ll admit it, this brought a tear to my eye. I always have to remind people that give me shit for being crass or aggressive that these are the same qualities that help me keep them safe at night.
Am I afraid…no.
Jesus told me not to be.
My 12yo son has his brown belt and me and his Dad have explained how to deal with any bullying at school: Just knock their lights out or give it a really good try and make sure everyone else sees you doing it. Never give up, never surrender. We are also very into rifles, guns and shooting. Good man activities with the bonus that we never have to worry about anyone messing with us. They can try. It won’t end well for them. If we don’t finish them off, the dogs will. Yes, this is a very man-friendly household. We love it.
Martel: If you really believe in corporal punishment, listen to some of Stefan Molyneux’s broadcasts on that very topic. I have three kids two of whom are now 20+ and we never, ever hit them. Punished yes. Good talkings to yes. Sent to their room, made to apologize for their transgressions and understand what they did wrong yes. Hitting no. There really isn’t any good lesson for a kid in spanking other than people who you love but are also bigger and stronger than you can make you helpless and hurt you. It’s not really a good lesson. Truly I am not an “activist” in this area I just did what felt right to me at the time but I am a big listener of Stefan and I know he is big time against spanking. And I do respect Stefan’s opinions on a lot of things.
This is one of those cases in which I admit it could be the hysterical ravings of most corporal punishment opponents that inclines me towards it instead.
If I ever have kids I’ll look into the issue in more depth, but I’ve seen enough decent men (almost all of them before modern times) who were hit from time to time, most turning out okay. Or at least better than most men now.
Still, “it’s for his own good” can become an excuse for parents to bully their own children. At the same time, such abusive parents aren’t likely to be dissuaded from abuse by some seminar.
“There really isn’t any good lesson for a kid in spanking other than people who you love but are also bigger and stronger than you can make you helpless and hurt you.”
But when administered properly in a loving home (it’s obvious that they also love YOU), I think there could be a “good lesson”, namely that actions have consequences, and some of them HURT. Not just your feelings, but your ass.
Still, I don’t think it’s necessarily imperative as a tool. Either way, I’ve no kids to either spank or not spank.
When you have your own kids, you’ll want to look into it and make a decision that’s right for you and your family. I wouldn’t automatically assume spanking to be innocuous based on other people’s (biased) opinions. 🙂 We also did natural childbirth (no tests, no drugs, no interventions, used a midwife) and left our son intact … these things went against the grain so they had to be thought about and decided on beforehand. Anything that is worth doing is worth doing right. Having kids is something special you’ll do only a few times in your life (very momentous) and I know I really didn’t want to fuck it up. Do your homework, you’ll be glad you did whichever way you decide to do things. I like to call it “being a responsible parent” – making concious decisions about how to handle things rather than let other’s opinions and norms guide you. We do that in every other facet of our lives, why not in how we raise our kids, huh?
BTW: did you ever get my email?? firstname.lastname@example.org
Yes, I got it, but haven’t watched the video yet. Most of my computer time lately has been at work where we can’t watch videos.
But thanks for the reminder, though. Maybe I’ll be able to watch it on my phone during lunch.
Def take a few minutes to watch it – well worth your time. I know you’ll like it.
I liked it, but I would have preferred he wrote it instead of said it. I would have taken less time.
Still, some great observations. Thanks for the tip.
And in case you’re wondering, I’ll return to AC’s theses soon.
I do like to mix my reading with a little YouTube these days. I am investing so much data all of the time, I get exhausted with it. Somedays I wish I was like Data on Star Trek and I could just plug the computer into a port behind my ear and download everything I want to know. Know what I mean? LOL
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